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Afghanistan

Theopolis Q. Hossenffer

I'm too lazy to set a usertitle.
Would you advice them to cut it with Fentanyl to stretch out the Heroin? China could definitely be of assistance there.

This could have a wonderful indirect effect on the price of weed if enough pot smokers get hooked on heroin.

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Go with straight Bleach. More cost effective.
 

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I changed my middle-name to Freeones
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021...tion-will-go-on-biden-says-after-kabul-attack

So now it's ISIS-K or ISKP. And the Taliban are the freaking "good guys":

ISKP had claimed responsibility for the attack in a statement that identified the bomber by name and referred to the Taliban as “apostates”.
McKenzie said US forces are coordinating with the Taliban to address the “extremely real” threat of attacks by ISKP.

I remember when ISIS broke away from AQ saying that they were pussies. And now we have the same thing repeating here.

You know your country is fucked up when the Taliban are the better choice of parties to work with...
 

tvstrip

I changed my middle-name to Freeones
Would deal with them like this going forward if peace is the goal - stop interfering with their country overly and covertly.

Then because they really cannot be trusted, don't do any business with them at all.
Years ago I had the exact same opinion. Stay out of other countries and deal with your own shit at home.

Unfortunately, shit also rolls downhill. Whether that entails refugees flooding into your country or terrorists attacking you or your allies because they're allowed to grow unchecked, one way or another, it's going to hit home eventually. And like we're seeing in Afghanistan, left unchecked, there's no limit to how bad a country can get. Just until yesterday we thought taliban rule was the worst case scenario - imagine how much further down the shithole the country could go without intervention?

On a side note, the crazy thing is, the US has made a business of having a military presence in other countries. I'm not just talking about the weapons/contractor industry, but the economic/diplomatic one resulting in the countries actually wanting them to stay. US forces in Germany, Japan, South Korea, Australia and multiple locations in the middle East have an economic impact, and the military alliances are so ingrained that many countries are even reliant on them staying. So they are almost perpetually going to have a overseas military presence. And as a result, they're going to always have a target on them - hence the need to always intervene, and down the rabbit hole we go....
 

VillellaMcMeans

I'm a porn expert.
Years ago I had the exact same opinion. Stay out of other countries and deal with your own shit at home.

Unfortunately, shit also rolls downhill. Whether that entails refugees flooding into your country or terrorists attacking you or your allies because they're allowed to grow unchecked, one way or another, it's going to hit home eventually. And like we're seeing in Afghanistan, left unchecked, there's no limit to how bad a country can get. Just until yesterday we thought taliban rule was the worst case scenario - imagine how much further down the shithole the country could go without intervention?

On a side note, the crazy thing is, the US has made a business of having a military presence in other countries. I'm not just talking about the weapons/contractor industry, but the economic/diplomatic one resulting in the countries actually wanting them to stay. US forces in Germany, Japan, South Korea, Australia and multiple locations in the middle East have an economic impact, and the military alliances are so ingrained that many countries are even reliant on them staying. So they are almost perpetually going to have a overseas military presence. And as a result, they're going to always have a target on them - hence the need to always intervene, and down the rabbit hole we go....

If shit rolls downhill, wouldn't it be better to stay on high ground? Physically, morally, and figuratively.

Remember that no Americans would've been killed in Afghanistan if they weren't there in first place - so continuing the endless cycle of violence, instead of stopping the endless cycle of violence is the proper action, which means getting out of where you don't belong.
 

Theopolis Q. Hossenffer

I'm too lazy to set a usertitle.
If America(Us) had done the minimum required, that is beat the shit out of al Qaeda and as needed The Taliban, and then gone home to allow Afghanistan to continue on it's merry way I believe we all would be better off. And if the Taliban didn't learn the needed lesson, rinse and repeat.
 

Supafly

Retired Morgenmuffel
Bronze Member
If America(Us) had done the minimum required, that is beat the shit out of al Qaeda and as needed The Taliban, and then gone home to allow Afghanistan to continue on it's merry way I believe we all would be better off. And if the Taliban didn't learn the needed lesson, rinse and repeat.
England, Russia, the USA including its little helpers tried exactly that since the 19th century, as Alexander the Great before. All of them walked home with bloody noses, beaten, badly beaten.

Afghanistan can't be beaten, that is safe to say, very safe to say by now.

Trying to send in new troops or commandos is a stupid idea.
 

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
England, Russia, the USA including its little helpers tried exactly that since the 19th century, as Alexander the Great before. All of them walked home with bloody noses, beaten, badly beaten.

Afghanistan can't be beaten, that is safe to say, very safe to say by now.
Politico posted a great article today on this subject:
Subtitled: ‘Graveyard of Empires’ is an old epitaph that doesn’t reflect historical reality — or the real victims of foreign invasions over the centuries.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/08/28/afghanistan-graveyard-britain-us-russia-506990
 

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Trump’s military disrupts another attack:
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/08/29/us-airstrike-suicide-bomber-airport-507211

Joe would never go for such a thing. ;)

The rocket attack meanwhile struck Kabul’s Khuwja Bughra neighborhood,
I'm looking at those pictures of the airport and all those residential highrises with a clear line-of-sight to the planes on the tarmac. I wonder why isis-k isn't targeting them? Seems like that's a more significant target.
 

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
I'm looking at those pictures of the airport and all those residential highrises with a clear line-of-sight to the planes on the tarmac. I wonder why isis-k isn't targeting them? Seems like that's a more significant target.
More significant, yes. It has a higher degree of difficulty though. They also want to challenge the Taliban so fighting two enemies (US and Taliban) is not a great strategy.
 

tvstrip

I changed my middle-name to Freeones
More significant, yes. It has a higher degree of difficulty though. They also want to challenge the Taliban so fighting two enemies (US and Taliban) is not a great strategy.
The airport & planes are (mostly) a US target, and it seems clear from the killing of those marines that they that's who they want to fight.
Hitting a residential area would seem more like attacking the taliban and not so much the US.
They know they only have literally a couple days to hit that soft target, so it wouldn't surprise me if they tried very soon.
 
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